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Post by cptusa on Apr 26, 2021 10:32:21 GMT -6
Been thinking of this thread and Swman getting into cattle.
If I'm right in how I think all these markets are going to play out then it's an excellent time to buy some cows.
In my opinion feeder calves this winter are probably going to take a bit of a beating with high price grains but I bet a lot of pasture gets tore up again in 2022 decreasing feeder calf availability. Good times ahead in fall/winter of 2022, comparable to 2013.
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Post by SWMan on Apr 26, 2021 12:47:07 GMT -6
Could be right. There is a bit of a drought around this year so seems availability is pretty good from guys looking to drop herd size, so that might make it cheaper to pick up cows. Plan is to get some hay established before things ramp up too much, then either sell extra hay or build inventory and grow herd size. At this point the only firm plan on the animals is to start small and get things figured out.
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Post by cptusa on Apr 26, 2021 16:10:18 GMT -6
No fun in starting small, just as well go balls in! We're bone dry around here, basically the derecho path is extremely dry. There's enough moisture to get out of the ground but we'll be in trouble fast with this weather pattern.
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Post by nvw on Apr 26, 2021 18:08:55 GMT -6
No fun in starting small, just as well go balls in! We're bone dry around here, basically the derecho path is extremely dry. There's enough moisture to get out of the ground but we'll be in trouble fast with this weather pattern. Yup, go big or go home. don't be a chicken, stick your neck out.  |
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Post by SWMan on Apr 26, 2021 23:37:17 GMT -6
Ha ha, you guys are pretty funny. Good thing I don't respond to peer pressure!  Looked at a couple of those 3pt disc mowers today, the Kubota one had a flail and deflectors that put into a windrow. Claas one looked pretty basic but sounds like it's priced right up there. Hard to look at something I've never seen run and make any sort of an informed decision though, back to youtube.... |
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Post by crtoney on May 16, 2021 17:52:09 GMT -6
Find someone to run your cows. they are work. Often not a bunch of $. My born again virgin farmland grows good crops.
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Post by SWMan on May 16, 2021 21:22:06 GMT -6
Find someone to run your cows. they are work. Often not a bunch of $. My born again virgin farmland grows good crops. The whole point of this is to get the kids invested in the farm, so a bunch of work is kinda what I'm expecting. Not gonna be a money maker I pretty much accept that, but the lessons learned will be invaluable. Anyways I found some older good condition pull-type hay conditioners for around 10K, so seems reasonable for entry level unit. Can get near new 3pt disc mowers for around 20K but no conditioner rolls. |
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Post by tswanson on May 28, 2021 10:05:31 GMT -6
I've only pulled sickle haybines. They work fine in good crops, speed is important. Can't push them. On light crops I use a swather. Good knife, tight belts etc very important. I've nothing against a disc bine and will probably own one sometime. I do know that they throw rocks so if you get one, build something to protect your rear window. Every tractor around here that pulls one has a steel frame with expanded metal at the back in front of the rear window.
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Post by hoodpins on May 28, 2021 11:31:10 GMT -6
Related question:
Thinking about trying some swath grazing. What have people used to cut greenfeed for swath grazing? My options are an 18ft haybine or a 30 ft swather?
My thoughts are that the haybine will dry down quicker and they may be less spoilage but there is the risk of a heavy November snow covering the smaller swaths. The swather will make a bigger swath but with no crimper I am wondering if there is going to be an issue with feed quality/spoilage.
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Post by Beerwiser on May 28, 2021 11:55:22 GMT -6
Spoilage from moisture is not a big concern with the swath grazing. Spoilage from them sleeping on it is a bigger problem from my experience. I found that a 25' swath makes nice bedding for them. I would stay with the smaller swath, they seem to clean it up better. Once they find the swath in the snow they will follow it. Only problem I have ever had is a really crusted snow. Unlike horses, they won't paw at the crust to get to the swath. Ended up having to drive on the swath with the tractor to break it.
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Post by SWMan on May 28, 2021 22:24:09 GMT -6
I've only pulled sickle haybines. They work fine in good crops, speed is important. Can't push them. On light crops I use a swather. Good knife, tight belts etc very important. I've nothing against a disc bine and will probably own one sometime. I do know that they throw rocks so if you get one, build something to protect your rear window. Every tractor around here that pulls one has a steel frame with expanded metal at the back in front of the rear window. Thanks for the tip, I bought a Kubota discbine so will have to add some protection for the back of tractor for sure. That canvas flap probably isn't enough...  |
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Post by garyfunk on May 29, 2021 6:47:39 GMT -6
Good choice SWMan. You'll like it so much that you'll be looking for more to cut, ha. If your dealer knows what they're doing it should be set up right but if you want any pointers on adjustments or add ons I may be able to help. As for the rocks, (and we have plenty), they seem to just roll out the front. But I guess some protection couldn't hurt. I had a rock come off the rubber roller of my haybine (sickle machine) when I was turning a corner one time and had to make a trip to the wrecker for a new door for the tractor . 🤷♂️
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Post by snapper22 on May 29, 2021 17:25:56 GMT -6
I have plenty of stones. Secret with discbines is resist the urge to run your cutterbar level or tilted back to lessen rock impacts. Point it down slightly so the rocks don’t become projectiles. Funny story. I was mowing my yard with the moco. Had it up, not cutting but running. Drove by wife’s vehicle. Must’ve been a little stone flung off but put a hole in the side window. Expensive mistakes.
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Post by garyfunk on Jun 30, 2021 13:45:01 GMT -6
Started our hay yesterday. Been a long time since we cut in June. Here's a gif of our Kubota in action. Got yours going yet SWMan?  |
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Post by Beerwiser on Jun 30, 2021 14:17:12 GMT -6
How have you liked the kubota so far? How is it to service and maintain?
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