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Post by Oatking on Mar 9, 2021 16:49:12 GMT -6
I have been a loyal Deere customer for years and years. Recently the CR8.90 caught my attention in harvest capacity and price. Money unfortunately is not burning a hole in my pockets, just yet ,so I would like to be sure this is going to be a reliable machine. Can any of the new holland guys give me some pros and cons on this machine. What size of flex header or macdon header can you harvest with? Also , I am looking in the 17 or 18 year range so what would I expect for yearly maintenance costs.? One thing that jumped out to me is they seem to lose a high amount of resale value after the second year.
Are there any options that are must haves? Also has anybody had success with suchy tracks on this model combine.
Thanks for any thoughts on this combine.
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Post by meskie on Mar 9, 2021 19:18:35 GMT -6
Not sure why the NH combines have poor resale value to them. They are a great machine. I couldn’t tell you the maintenance costs on the newer ones but when we ran them it was less then guys I know who ran JD with about the same hours on our machines. In talking to the shop foreman and service manager the newer x.90 seem to be holding up better then the previous generation.
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Post by bob123 on Mar 9, 2021 23:49:16 GMT -6
I think you would get along well with a 40ft on it based on your yields in the area, I dont think you live very many minutes away from me. 45ft would probably work fine most of the time but from my time working alongside with farmers with 45ft headers they seem to have a disproportionate amount of issues when conditions get tough. Just push the 40 a little faster. As for maintenance, my cr is nearing in on 3k sep hours and my 5 year maintenance average isnt over 5k I dont think, although it is an older model. I do all my own maintenance and have worked on a few others cr's. I find working on them is fairly simplistic, although may take a few more hours then a case for example. By an 8.90 they will have fixed most of the annoying little things on the older machines.
As for aftermarket tracks, I would stay away if you can, hydro and final drive issues seem to follow shortly after. I would rather get rwa and decent tires
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Post by Oatking on Mar 10, 2021 7:10:09 GMT -6
Thanks bob123, Who do you use for your prime dealer and thanks for the advice on tracks, how would a 8.90 compare to a deere. would it be more capacity than a s680. what is the difference between asp and dsp . I notice more guys switching over and wondered what the number one reason is. How is the engine holding up and do most guys delete the emissions or is the emissions less trouble. The 13.5 l deere engine scares me a bit from major failures. I used to run a pair of TRs 20 years ago and found they were short of horse power but it looks like they solved that problem. Have run deere for 17 years but to trade up now on a 780 is not in the cards. How is the mazer dealer on the east side of winnipeg for service. That would be my closest dealer by a bit. The most important factor is if Mazer has enough service trucks on the road. Enns service has been incredible great and prompt when a problem comes up. however the repair bill is killing me even if we baby my two machines. I am stuck in between Winkler , Steinbach and Winnipeg all 45 minute drives. I guess I am spoiled with Enns being 10 minutes away. Should that distance be a major issue.
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Post by carlos on Mar 10, 2021 7:59:13 GMT -6
Asp is the automatic stone protection, have it on my 9070. It is ok,but some little stones get through once in a while. I have it set at 100 sensitivity. Seems to work fine there,doesnt pop open when you hit a wad. Dsp is on my 9.90. First year was last fall with it. I think I like it better,has a rock trap and 1 morning I found a decent sized pebble. I dont have many rock anyways, but this was picked up straight cutting on my hilly land. Tried a 40 foot nh flex draper. I wouldnt go bigger,but that is just me,salesman said 45 would match up well.
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Post by jaymo on Mar 10, 2021 8:21:41 GMT -6
We run a 2014 8090, It has many of the same features as the "dot" series. 410 bu tank, the DSP with shorter feeder house etc. If you have stones at all you will want the DSP. The DSP has a feed roller and stone box that you have to manually empty. The ASP has electronic sensors that trigger a stone door to open, dropping stones from the bottom of your feeder house. They can be quite reliable if setup properly but the biggest headaches is having to stop, reverse your feeder, lift your feeder house to close the door and then continue on. We have a 9070 with ASP also, so I can tell you first hand what a difference it can make. In the fall of 2019, our canola was all flattened from "the blizzard". We were scraping it off the ground with FD140's and the 8090 was doing 50% more at times just because it didnt have to stop for every stone. Last year, everything was standing and the ASP opened once or twice all harvest. I don't know about tracks but our 8090 has 620 duals and 710r30 rears with rwa. That thing went through anything and everything in the fall of 2019 without leaving much for ruts either. Thats the way to go in my opinion. The 8090 has a Ekotune plug-in delete that has worked flawlessly but its Tier 4A, so you would have to find something for Tier 4B in the dot series.
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Post by kevlar on Mar 10, 2021 8:43:00 GMT -6
Don't get your hopes up with Mazer's service calls being any cheaper!! They have been (locally anyways) good with parts and service, but price is definitely up there. No experience with the models you asked about, but have had several CR's pre dot series, and they were flawless. Have a CX now, it's been ok but not as good a machine as the CR's. And about 45 minutes is our closest dealer of any kind, consider yourself lucky.
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Post by bob123 on Mar 10, 2021 10:28:41 GMT -6
Thanks bob123, Who do you use for your prime dealer and thanks for the advice on tracks, how would a 8.90 compare to a deere. would it be more capacity than a s680. what is the difference between asp and dsp . I notice more guys switching over and wondered what the number one reason is. How is the engine holding up and do most guys delete the emissions or is the emissions less trouble. The 13.5 l deere engine scares me a bit from major failures. I used to run a pair of TRs 20 years ago and found they were short of horse power but it looks like they solved that problem. Have run deere for 17 years but to trade up now on a 780 is not in the cards. How is the mazer dealer on the east side of winnipeg for service. That would be my closest dealer by a bit. The most important factor is if Mazer has enough service trucks on the road. Enns service has been incredible great and prompt when a problem comes up. however the repair bill is killing me even if we baby my two machines. I am stuck in between Winkler , Steinbach and Winnipeg all 45 minute drives. I guess I am spoiled with Enns being 10 minutes away. Should that distance be a major issue. I've only been to east wpg mazer once and it seemed like they focused mainly on construction and acreage, but I could be wrong, not nearly the parts stock as steinbach anyway. Steinbach is who I use mainly, been very good for parts, pretty good for service, sales I only tried to deal with once but they never called me back,but I prefer private sales anyway. I'm using winkler mazer for the combine I'm working on now for someone else and they are alright, not as big as steinbach but they are growing fairly quick I think. I've gotten 3 service calls in the 5 years from steinbach and they've all showed up in around 2 hours or less and I'm 45 minutes away, thought that was reasonable enough. dont think anyone is gonna show up for cheap tho, around 200 for the drive plus time spent fixing. I would delete it right away, one breakdown in field pays for it. My tuned cr970 will keep up with a s690 for most part with less losses until it gets really humid, then the Deere can keep pushing it through, have outdone s670s by quite a bit in canola, I think an 8.90 should have no problem with capacity, especially at similar loss levels. I've never ran a dsp so I cant weigh in too much there other then I've been happy enough with the asp and it's never really caused me grief. Opens a few times a year and can clear it in about 15 seconds. I think the best rock trap is not getting them in the header in the first place, keeping the header set light enough to not scoop.
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Post by SWMan on Mar 10, 2021 14:02:08 GMT -6
If you want a new Deere go ask at Agwest, I think they have over twenty Deere's on trade and some are pretty late model.
CR is a good machine but if you need tracks get a Claas.
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