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Post by SWMan on Oct 21, 2020 23:12:51 GMT -6
Long term corn chart, pretty range-bound IMO. Perhaps a good time to sell soon? Here is the concerning chart, other commodity booms were accompanied by a rally in oil. I doubt the price of oil will be driving the bio-fuel industry much these days.
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Post by kenmb on Oct 22, 2020 10:36:12 GMT -6
Busy couple days for yellow pea sales according to Johnston's Daily. A lot of demand should be filled the last couple weeks. If price holds next week then we should be able to play the casino by thinking higher is more likely than lower.
A crap load of currency has been plowed into the system over the last 12 years so whatever dollar amount we have seen before needs to be adjusted for possibility that this will finally be reflected in grain prices. What was once considered to be high price years ago needs to be thought of as low for today's reality. So those price rallies on the charts SWMan posted need to be adjusted in your mind for devalued currency. Of course the effects created by wonders of buying/selling leveraged futures without any obligation to take delivery needs to be allowed for. Sometimes it allows for price to be driven down, other times guys are at the casino piloting the rocket ship.
To Meskies point on feed barley being used for beer. I often think that is possible. On the other hand, there is somewhere around 2c-3c of barley in a bottle of beer. Granted most of the price we pay for beer is taxes, but from a cost of production standpoint, the price of malt barley can go up a long way before adding 5% to the production cost of that bottle of beer. If we accept that malt barley varieties do have advantages over feed barley for beer production, then paying $7/bu for malt probably doesn't even impact the bottom line of a brewery. So if a brewer added 2c to their sale price per bottle to cover the "high price" of malt barley they would be adding profit.
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Post by meskie on Oct 22, 2020 11:47:10 GMT -6
When company’s are buying feed barley but it has to be of a certain variety And paying you feed price you know it’s not going into the feed market.
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Post by victory on Nov 6, 2020 11:26:55 GMT -6
Well, prices have been going in the right direction. How much more upside can we expect? I think canola outlook is still bullish. Got an offer of $7.30/bu for some 14% no. 1 HRS. Not sure what I should do. Didn't sell much wheat yet. Barley is gone already.
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Post by torriem on Nov 6, 2020 14:57:40 GMT -6
$7.30 is very profitable for me. If I had any wheat left I would sell some/most at that price. I'm just as happy to have decent money in the pocket and empty bins.
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Post by SWMan on Nov 6, 2020 21:58:16 GMT -6
Victory who has $7.30 for wheat? Seems like all the elevators are sub $6 here. I know the freight makes a difference but shouldn't be that big.
I bailed on my oilseeds, figured $11.83 for canola picked up and $12.50 for soybeans was good enough to get sales moved along. Sold a few yellow peas for $8.30 as well. All for November.
Maybe we see more, but honestly I'm nervous with the US election and what that might mean for things near term. Also Canadian dollar is moving higher, but perhaps that's just the US dollar going lower and why grain futures are going up.
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Post by shmiffy on Nov 7, 2020 1:40:52 GMT -6
Elevator here is asking guys to haul their dec contracts in now to fill durum train that is coming next week. Might be interesting
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Post by kenmb on Nov 7, 2020 7:08:10 GMT -6
Prices still going higher here.
Booked some yellow peas at local Richardson Pioneer for $8.47 JFM delivery. Now offering $8.80 for April May Did some Metcalfe there also for $5.47 for JFM. Feed at $5.15
My best pricing that I can find right now is my local elevator.
I too wanted to get some grain booked before the election so sold on 40% peas, 25% malt. Still have half my flax and mustard to sell. I think I will sell some more flax shortly for quick cash.
160ac of my yellow mustard that I swathed is grading sample because of excreta. Not animal, looks to be grasshopper crap, and I barely saw a grasshopper this year. But I can see it for myself in my bin sample so need to deal with that somehow later.
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Post by victory on Nov 7, 2020 10:42:39 GMT -6
Victory who has $7.30 for wheat? Seems like all the elevators are sub $6 here. I know the freight makes a difference but shouldn't be that big. I bailed on my oilseeds, figured $11.83 for canola picked up and $12.50 for soybeans was good enough to get sales moved along. Sold a few yellow peas for $8.30 as well. All for November. Maybe we see more, but honestly I'm nervous with the US election and what that might mean for things near term. Also Canadian dollar is moving higher, but perhaps that's just the US dollar going lower and why grain futures are going up. G3 needs to load a train in the next couple weeks. That price includes going from 13.5 to 14.2 protein. "Local" feedlot and also a feed mill are paying $7 for wheat. One feedlot is mixing wheat with the barley because they can't find barley. Feel kind of dumb hauling no. 1 wheat out to fill the feed market, but if the elevators aren't more interested, that is what's going to happen. Going for feed also limits dockage to 1%. Had some extra whitecaps in the Viewfield this year. Yields were less than average here because of the very wet spring and summer, so price needs to make up for the shortfall. Most elevators are currently at just under $7 for no. 1 13.5.
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Post by kenmb on Nov 10, 2020 7:42:06 GMT -6
Post some random stuff here. One of my crazy speculations is we will see more of a narrative on "food security" as the grip is tightened on a population. So I do have a concern with escalating grain prices. A nice bump is good, however something that starts getting news headlines of record grain prices, shocking spike, etc, etc may be followed by food security concerns as the driver. Which will lead to demands for government intervention to solve these problems. I saw these two articles on New Ag Talk this morning. I post here because my first thought is things don't just happen. Particularly when it comes to unions. There is a lot of money and control exercised in a union. Control means someone is calling the shots, and it is not the members even though they are told they are the union and therefore the union serves them. I see it as the opposite, the members serve the union leadership. So I interpret union activity and strikes at grain terminal in Argentina as something to note as potential for a bigger play. gcaptain.com/argentine-grain-port-workers-strike-over-wages/And I will post this one because it makes no sense to me. It could simply be the fault of the journalist. www.dtnpf.com/agriculture/web/ag/columns/cash-market-moves/article/2020/11/09/agriculture-container-shippers-leftA high demand for containers in Asia means shipping of full containers to Asia is halted. How does that make sense. Maybe they are saying containers aren't being filled to instead be shipped back empty. Doubtful. Covid has resulted in a greater demand for food products. I didn't realize people eat more and less depending on whether they are allowed to move freely. I always thought food consumption could be calculated to within 0.1% day in and day out. And there is a great demand for high value shipments from Asia thus need for containers. Yet the massive economic expansion of 12 years from dirt cheap interest rates has not seen peak shipping movement and container supply. Apparently the crippling of the world economy from covid, record debt, shutdown of manufacturing is now resulting in max container traffic. I don't know. I can't follow a single point in this news about exports falling off in Canada. Will leave it to yourself to interpret. I think grain prices have room to move higher. My concern is the grain won't move off my farm in the time frame contracted and that higher and higher grain prices may not be a good thing in the long run. "food security" being the buzz words.
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Post by kevlar on Nov 10, 2020 8:29:51 GMT -6
It's nice to see the prices moving up, they are nowhere near being record prices, closer to being where they should be all the time, but the news won't say that. What bothers me though when prices rise fairly rapidly instead of a gradual increase, I find there tends to be an off set somewhere to absorb the gains. The last time prices spiked, fertilizer, fuel, land, and equipment quickly rose to take care of the increased income. Haven't been following fertilizer prices but think I read somewhere that phosphate has being going up fairly steady. Once a farmer sees a few more dollars in his pocket, they feel land prices can rise accordingly. The last time prices rose to record levels, when canola was $14-$15 a bushel, the media, and many farmers heads were spinning. If you had a crop, that was pretty good, but in our case that year our canola did maybe 15 bushels an acre, then fertilizer went up close to 50% the following year, and it was around that time land taxes nearly doubled. I'm not trying to be a downer, just saying higher prices can be a double edged sword.
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Post by cptusa on Nov 10, 2020 13:07:26 GMT -6
Pour out some feed and slap the bull's ass cause we're going higher now! Disclaimer: Taking free marketing advice from a guy on the internet is not the best idea. We aren't even going to put out feed or slap the bull's ass anymore. We're just going to strap a rocket ship to him and light the turbos. Hold on little baby Jesus we're in for a wild ride. Razor thin carryout on beans and exports up on corn according to WASDE has corn +.18 and beans +.40. This still has Iowa corn yield at 186 BPA which is not possible. My gut feeling is USDA has been way wrong and over stated supply for several years to avoid a 2012 run away market, drought combined with derecho has taken an otherwise enormous crop and turned it into one of the worst in 20-25 years making it impossible to ignore. IF Biden keeps the win watch money flow from the stock's to commodities again and boom, there we are. Disclaimer: Previous disclaimer still applies. Even though I'm right.
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Post by SWMan on Nov 11, 2020 0:38:32 GMT -6
Local feed mill paying $7.25 for feed wheat a couple months out, says corn is running away on price so switching over to wheat. I gather they bought 5000 tonnes today alone of wheat! So these things tend to have a domino effect, everything is related.
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Post by slipclutch on Nov 11, 2020 7:17:43 GMT -6
Is there more value in milling wheat then corn? What are the feed mills paying for corn vs wheat.
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Post by cptusa on Nov 11, 2020 8:23:47 GMT -6
Is there more value in milling wheat then corn? What are the feed mills paying for corn vs wheat. It's just about balancing the ration. Wouldn't say there is more value in milling one over the other it coes down to cost of gain with one over the other. No alternatives here, corn is king with DDG's thrown in.
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