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Post by kevlar on Feb 5, 2021 17:25:30 GMT -6
After reading somewhere on here, I got thinking about cordless impact wrenches. Had a truck show up the other day that had a flat tire, just put on a tire we had mounted on a rim to keep him going. Of course, our no-name 3/4 inch impact gun was barely up to the task, and being cold out, began to freeze up with 3 nuts left to go, then was still froze up when we put the new tire on. Then pulled out tractor into the shop to replace a wheel seal, and of course the gun wouldn't loosen those bolts, and being deep inside a set of tripples, there is no possible way to get them with a swing bar. So in Brandon today, walked into Brandon Bearing to see if they carried stuff like cordless tools, and to my surprise, right on the shelf by the door, on sale was this! It was like a sign!
Tried it on a couple of the tractor wheel bolts and it zipped them off like nothing. Thinking this is going to be a really handy tool for in the field, not needing a compressor and hoses. Do those of you with battery powered tools really like them? Holding up well? Would like to try a chainsaw out sometime as well. A little pricey, but I think it will be well worth it.
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Post by nvw on Feb 5, 2021 17:46:08 GMT -6
I have all Milwaukee cordless tools, I love them. They are the first thing I grab. If I have a lot of grinding I'll get the corded one out.
The bigger A/H battery the better they work, I have 2, 5 A/H ones and 1, 8 A/H battery as well as the 2 A/H batteries that generally come with the tools. BIGGER is better.
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Post by meskie on Feb 5, 2021 17:46:24 GMT -6
It’s hard to stop buying Cordless tools once you start....
we have a 1/2” impact a impact driver a drill chainsaw couple angle grinders leaf blower and have a couple other impacts die grinder vacuum and band saw on order. Had a big group order and got them a lot cheaper then buying from the store is why we ordered them.
They are handy for field repairs or fixing something across the yard. The most used tool in our shop is the grinder with a cut off disc we cut just about everything with it or the impact driver with an adapter to put sockets on.
If I’m doing lots of bolts I will use my 1/2” air impact. It’s just as powerful as the cordless and is half the weight.
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Post by Beerwiser on Feb 5, 2021 17:55:14 GMT -6
I really like my Milwaukee stuff, I will put my 1/2" Milwaukee up against my Ingersoll Rand titanium 1/2" any day in cold weather. As you mentioned, no freezing of the air lines. Big plus, but you need big batteries for an impact. Downside is the Milwaukee impacts are heavy, more specifically top heavy. They don't balance well in the hand no matter what size of battery you have. Also, my twin hammer 1/2" snapon kicks the shit out of both of them. But then you are back to freezing air lines. I can not do a direct comparison on 3/4" stuff as I only have air for 3/4(snapon too).
Some comparisons on chainsaws
1/4" impacts
When it comes to overall cordless tools it is Milwaukee in my books. Chainsaw is not the best from what I seen, but I will still buy one when I catch it on sale for miscellaneous cutting. The way I see it is pick the 3 tools you will use the most and stick with that brand for the rest.
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Post by northernfarmer on Feb 5, 2021 18:09:41 GMT -6
That would have been Kenmb talking about the idea of getting that very same tool you just bought rather then buying an updated air impact. So you got the One Key system as well so not only can you bust your nuts, you can keep track of your tool LOL.
Any moisture in the system with an air tool and colder weather, that does exactly as you had happen so I assume these service trucks have to keep up with the moisture issue to allow them to make use of air tools during the winter.
Speaking of the chain saw, although that farm oriented youtube channel guy who tests products didn't have the Milwaukee saw at the top of the heap, a friend had his out here a couple of falls ago and I cut up a few trees that had been chopped down by beaver and I have to say it worked surprisingly well. The reason he bought it is that he lives in town and sometimes has some tree trimming to do or at his parents place and in the past was frustrated with gas saws because its sitting there most of its life and when you go to use it, it won't start because its all gummed up in the carb and has old gas in it which can ruin a two cycle. He is a mechanic and has various other Milwaukee tools so it made sense for him to stick with the same brand. If your intention is to cut up a bunch of trees for firewood or have large trees to cut down or cut up to drag off of fields it wouldn't be the right tool but for smaller jobs and not worrying about running out of battery power before you finish the job, its certainly a useful tool. I haven't looked much at electric saws but with his being that I used it I noted that the chain is a very small narrow type of micro chain which makes sense as that takes less power to saw through a tree vs a wide beefy gas powered full size chain saw chain. Lets say you are going around opening up a field with a swather or straight cut on the combine and want to have a chain saw to cut that smallish tree sticking out or laid down in the crop, that would be a good option to pack with. I will say though that its different to use one for the simple fact that I am used to a gas unit and if its running and making noise its live and dangerous but if silent its safe. Not so with a battery powered unit because if that battery is installed its potentially live and let silent so sure would not want a tool like that sitting around that children could start touching and best to have the battery pulled out of it just to be safe if packed around in some piece of equipment if its not contained well.
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Post by cptusa on Feb 5, 2021 18:12:36 GMT -6
I have a lot of Milwaukee cordless tools and just bought another 1/2" 2767 impact to keep in my make shift service truck. I'll use the Milwaukee's 90% of the time in the shop as well. The original batteries were good but they seem like duds once I got the 5.0 batteries. They hold a charge, work up until the end with no power loss and have great longevity.
We bought a 9" (I think) Milwaukee demo saw for the FD that came with 2 8.0 batteries, that thing is sure handy as well.
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Post by Beerwiser on Feb 5, 2021 18:44:32 GMT -6
Guys who have the Milwaukee 4 1/2" angle grinder, do you find them loud in the right angle gear box? Peavy mart had them on sale so I bought that and the demo saw. Grinder works fine, but it was an open box/ return. Wondering if there is something wrong with it.
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Post by meskie on Feb 5, 2021 18:54:24 GMT -6
Guys who have the Milwaukee 4 1/2" angle grinder, do you find them loud in the right angle gear box? Peavy mart had them on sale so I bought that and the demo saw. Grinder works fine, but it was an open box/ return. Wondering if there is something wrong with it. Can’t say I noticed any noise in either one of our grinders. |
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Post by northernfarmer on Feb 5, 2021 19:27:25 GMT -6
Guys who have the Milwaukee 4 1/2" angle grinder, do you find them loud in the right angle gear box? Peavy mart had them on sale so I bought that and the demo saw. Grinder works fine, but it was an open box/ return. Wondering if there is something wrong with it. Look and see which model it is, I am curious if that is the low powered version that I had used a bit from a neighbour as his was rather frustrating as it would kick out/stop power wise as I was trying to use it with the cut off wheel as it never had enough grunt. I've been eyeing a couple of potential models of Milwaukee angle grinder and not sure which one would be more to my liking, one style has the paddle and I really am not all that thrilled with that system due to having to hold it on all the time but they do make a lock on style but its a rather chintzy slide lock I must say when I had a chance to look at one. They make various larger ones yet but I don't have large batteries around and that is where the cost is to get into multiple large batteries as the larger grinders would be real power hogs and with good reason.
Also will be in the market for a small battery impact for doing some grain bin bolt work and although its a new out on the market unit its the compact 18 volt 3/8 or 1/2 drive impact wrench with the flat front face that takes the place of the prior compact model that I was looking at.
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Post by nvw on Feb 5, 2021 19:28:08 GMT -6
Mine just purrs along, no strange noise, bring it back. Someone else already did it sounds like.
I have the standard version, with the 2 A/H bat., it is not much good, 5 A/H and bigger it is a much better grinder. Longer life and power by far. The only FUEL tool I have is the Impact driver which I like.
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Post by northernfarmer on Feb 5, 2021 19:30:53 GMT -6
Mine just purrs along, no strange noise, bring it back. Someone else already did it sounds like. Which model does yours happen to be and have you been doing grinding and cut off work with it ?. Also what battery size have you used and how is that lasting for the work it can do for one charge. |
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Post by Beerwiser on Feb 5, 2021 19:33:18 GMT -6
I bought the 2680-20. Tool only version. It almost sounds like the back lash on the gears is too tight. Normally I don't use the wrench to tighten the cut off disc down, but the braking on this grinder is so much you have to use the tool.
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Post by nvw on Feb 5, 2021 19:38:12 GMT -6
Mine just purrs along, no strange noise, bring it back. Someone else already did it sounds like. Which model does yours happen to be and have you been doing grinding and cut off work with it ?. Also what battery size have you used and how is that lasting for the work it can do for one charge. I did an edit while you posted this, I find the 2 A/H battery to be all but useless, 5 A/H and bigger it is a totally different grinder. I do grind with it but mostly use a Zip disc for cutting. |
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Post by torriem on Feb 5, 2021 20:30:55 GMT -6
Another Milwaukee fan boy here. We have the 3/8, 1/2 and 3/4 impacts. We don't use the 3/8 much but the other two get lots of use. Just added Cat Eyes to the super B trailer a few weeks ago and the 3/4 took off the lug nuts no problems. I don't mind the weight but could see how it could get tiring holding that over your head all day.
It's because of this we don't really have any plans to do a shop air distribution system in the new shop. Just not worth the effort for now.
Someone asked about the grinder. Ours is plenty noisy in the gears too. Also the cordless grinders all run about half the speed of the corded ones. Pretty much all brands. That said, the Milwaukee grinder works pretty well for us. We keep ours on top of our welding cart.
We also have the jig saw and the circular saw. Both are awesome for small jobs. We quite like the chain saw also for the same reasons as already mentioned. It's always ready to go when you need it for the odd job cutting up branches around the yard. I also find it a bit scary because it's still deadly when it's silent, and when it's on it's very quiet. It's easy to forget how dangerous it can be.
My dad bought the string trimmer and it does have its place, but it's quite unbalanced compared to a 2 stroke trimmer. But for small jobs like cleaning up around the shop doors and around the trees in my lawn it works great.
We have only 5 and 9 Ah batteries right now that work pretty well. I bought a couple of battery adapters so we can run a few of our DeWalt 18V and Makita 18v tools with the Milwaukee batteries. I find that very useful. One thing about the batteries, though, is the charger won't attempt o charge them if it's too cold. Before our shop was heated we had to bring the batteries into the house to charge them.
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Post by northernfarmer on Feb 5, 2021 21:14:56 GMT -6
I bought the 2680-20. Tool only version. It almost sounds like the back lash on the gears is too tight. Normally I don't use the wrench to tighten the cut off disc down, but the braking on this grinder is so much you have to use the tool. I looked it up and that is the one I was using of the neighbours and what I was frustrated with, and surprisingly on the Milwaukee website they have the reviews and there are enough reviews that indicate what I had happen is pretty much what to expect if trying to do more then very light work. I was cutting exhaust pipe under a truck and it was rusty junk and still it was stalling out. The person I mentioned before that had the electric power saw, he bought the model 2783-20 which is a 4 1/2- 5" grinder ( the 2680-20 isn't even listed in the grinder section at all which raises my eyebrows ) due to a work buddy that already had one and for lighter grinding found it to be handy but its not some beefy high powered grinder. It has the electronic braking on that model which as I read takes power to do that so its sucking up power every time the trigger is let go of so one has to weigh that issue into the equation if its worth the option or not depending on if one wants that grinder to come to a stop quick to be able to set it down. Sometime a person has to use a tool themselves to know what it feels like and performs like and a grinder is one that it all depends on who's on the end of it as to how much power it takes or expectations of what its assumed it should be able to do.
Oh and those small 2 amp batteries, I got them with the grease gun and they are a joke in my mind and have used them for example on my high powered 1/2 impact for very small jobs like changing one pickup tire and will work for that but nothing more, sad excuse for a battery in my estimation for anything that will take any amount of power. Maybe they are good for some small flashlight.
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