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Post by Oatking on Feb 4, 2023 19:02:54 GMT -6
Sounds about right Kevlar. Very similar to the "news" of a drone crippling a Russian command ship. Yes sir, after centuries of naval warfare the Ukrainians figured out that all you needed to do was send a small craft on top of the water to cripple ship. Don't even mess around with it being underwater or high speed like a plane delivered bomb or torpedo circa WW2. No, apparently the newest tech is to simply put it on top of tge water and send it off. A century of military technology just became obsolete and was defenseless to stop. So yes, a balloon for surveillance sounds about right. Right up there with Ukraine being in full on war with Russians destroying everything yet crop production is up. Canada can't move grain in cold weather but Ukraine can run an entire Ag sector without rail, power, supply chains, exports/imports, port access and every other aspect. it certainly doesn't make any sense.
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Post by iamwill on Feb 4, 2023 19:30:32 GMT -6
I think you missed my sarcasm. The way it played out is exactly the way the government wanted to. Get rid of it after it's job was done, and say look we took care of the problem, nothing to see here. As for our officials you can bet that Turdo the man of steal and his partner in crime Jackoff Stink were on their way to CFB Cold lake to fire up one of our 40yr old cf18s to shoot it down themselves. It was only when they got there they realized they had forgotten the keys and by that time it was too late to do anything (more sarcasm).
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Post by Oatking on Feb 4, 2023 20:29:52 GMT -6
I have to take china s side on this one and plead ignorance. If it was so important to have the president of the united states say "shoot it down and collect the balloon parts, well than wouldnt china have had an option to blow it up themselves and deny the US any chance of inspecting this balloon. That is how I would attempt a kamikaze mission.!
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Post by kevlar on Feb 4, 2023 20:35:08 GMT -6
Well if it truly and honestly is a Chinese spy balloon, I’ll eat a steaming pile of dog shit. There’s just no way any country spies with a balloon, let’s fire up the Hindenburg and pay China a visit. Then for the US to announce to the entire population what it is? Without even knowing for sure? I would imagine if it was something as significant as what they claim, we would have never known about it and it would never have made land in North America. Did we not learn anything from covid? The government and media aren’t in the business of keeping us informed with the truth.
There’s more to this.
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Post by kenmb on Feb 5, 2023 7:29:33 GMT -6
Its a litmus test and you passed Kevlar.
Of course there are many people who believe the story because, well, it's on tv.
For many others they see it as China has mastered balloons and can now use them as the latest source of intel gathering. Far superior to manned air craft or satellite. A balloon is the new pinnacle for the world tech. China even figured out how to steer a balloon over the areas it wants using airstreams while launching on the other side of the planet.
Yes, China has demonstrated to the world its power. The balloon.
But the US has responded - they used a STEALTH F22 fighter to destroy the top of line Chinese tech.
It truly is sad what people simply take as factual. The only reason why they beleive anything at all is because the tv told them. If some guy on the street said "hey, did you know China is collecting the highest level intelligence of our country using a balloon", pretty much everyone after a few seconds of thought would say "you effing idiot'. But the tv said it so the entire thought process is programmed differently.
Unless of course a balloon following air currents truly is the highest level of technology today and surpasses the last 70 years of surveillance tech. There was a time the SR71 was top notch. Maybe a balloon really is the new pinnacle of tech and war is the response.
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Post by cptusa on Feb 5, 2023 8:20:03 GMT -6
There's likely considerably more to the balloon story then what they want us to know.
It's likely not some super top notch spy craft BUT it's likely more then just a lost weather balloon.
IF it were just a lost weather balloon the chicoms wouldn't be so upset that it was downed.
There's three sides to this story. Chicoms, our governments, and the truth.
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Post by iamwill on Feb 5, 2023 9:57:57 GMT -6
It really doesn't matter what it was it's the fact that it entered the airspace of other countries and no one was given the heads-up. Why didn't the Chinese say hey guys there is a balloon headed your way it was launched on this day by this university for this purpose...? You are right we will never learn the truth, from either side, and shooting it down over the ocean helps make sure of it.
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Post by kenmb on Feb 5, 2023 10:03:12 GMT -6
No, a balloon is not the latest spy technology. And no, it is not up to something even more sinister. It's a balloon. And most likely does not even exist. Similarly Ukraine does not loose any farm production with a countries infrastructure destroyed and occupied by an invading army. If one part is made up BS how do you pick and choose which other parts are facts as given by the same entity.
Who says the Chinese are upset? The same "news" that says a balloon is the newest spy technology and an act of war? Hmmmm. If I said we are watching a show would i still beleive one side is actual people giving real life responses and only the other side is made up. Ok, it wasn't on a spy mission because that was made up but all the responses from "China" are factual reporting in the same "news".
Joe Biden may be a fake/illegitimate president but all the issues he is responding to and people in opposition to him are real. All we need is to elect the right people and we can solve all these issues. Unless of course the issues only exist in the "news" and people responding, because then it gets hard for real people to solve issues that don't exist. We could have solved all the covid 19 issues if we had good people in charge. But luckily for us covid 19 just kind of went away on its own. Except for those who believe covid 19 is a thing, for them it has not gone away.
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Post by kenmb on Feb 8, 2023 9:16:17 GMT -6
Rumors are the CIA discovered the Chinese working on a more advanced ballon. CIA called it project "Z" or "Zep" or something.
Basically, they seem to be suspicious that China has taken a ballon, stretched it out and installed rudder as well as a cabin for an operator and two 75hp motors with propellers. This will be a manned ballon that can be steered over sensitive areas of a country and not be left to random air movements.
The CIA is calling this new technology an endgame and the end to all possibility of escaping surveillance and are lobbying for first strike against China before this hyper advanced spy technology gets put into play.
Some people are even saying this project Z could carry nuclear or hypersonic missiles.
The end is near. This spy balloon is just the first salvo in the final arms race.
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Post by cptusa on Feb 8, 2023 10:53:03 GMT -6
Yeah, Trump is going to get us into a war yet! Oh, wait, wait a minute.... well... Yeah, ok.
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Post by kenmb on Feb 11, 2023 9:36:43 GMT -6
Yes, a guy can really see how the media controls people's mindsthese days. The media would out right make up stories about Trump and when the Democrats have control the media does not even touch a story that is confirmed by even those in government.
And it has always been this way. Not just recently, and not just with social justice warriors and a new crop of people in media trying to assert influence - media has always been controlled.
And so anything the media touches, or purposely doesn't touch, can be considered part of the control system at work.
Have never once seen the media question central bank policy. Never. Especially since inflation "suddenly" became a thing in the last 2 years. There can't be 2 sides of a story when both sides are the same entity. And so media won't question central banks. Or many, many other things.
I see more balloon stories being printed. It's quite exciting. A balloon is now newsworthy. I understand the US is having trouble recovering the spy technology from the ocean. Such excitement. I suppose both China and the US are eager to retrieve the video cassette recorder tapes to obtain all that intelligence the balloon collected.
Media is busy doing its thing. Same as always. With the internet there to put it in your face. If only the internet remained a free platform like when first rolled out. If only the people with real power didn't figure out what they could do with the internet.
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Post by runninredhard on Feb 18, 2023 23:15:29 GMT -6
How long can this propaganda bombardment via MSM continue? Knocking out weather balloons? with $500,000 missiles without first identifying the target is horrifying. Shoot first, ask questions later. When you go bird hunting, do you shoot blindly at a tree because you saw something move there and hope to hit a grouse? Unbelievable times. The Russians accused of blowing up their own pipeline and are now trying to rebuild it doesn't make sense. This absurdity has got to stop!
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Post by Oatking on Feb 19, 2023 8:41:55 GMT -6
ahhhhh So its biden causing the war and severe inflation in the world , not putin. !!!! Seymour sure sounds credible. Good interview
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Post by kevlar on Feb 20, 2023 18:07:56 GMT -6
See Biden made a trip to Ukraine and gave them a nice little cheque to boot. Guess it was time to go pick up his share of the winnings. Yet he refuses to do anything to help out with the train derailment. No money to be made there I suppose.
How about Don Lemon? If it had been a right wing, or even centre, broadcaster, his career would have been over before he finished his shift.
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Post by runninredhard on Feb 24, 2023 10:54:39 GMT -6
More confirmation of the Biden regime and Norway acting together to take out the Nordstream pipeline. Of course, nobody will ever face jail time or be impeached for what is going on or has gone on in leading up to war escalation!
Impeach and imprison Trump for bringing up the subjects seems to be the only solution! Covert operations involving CIA, FBI, Hunter Biden's laptop, Victoria Nuland and Joe Biden's 2014 appointment of Supreme leader in Ukraine Walensky and avoiding the original Minsk Treaty are all just viewed by the MSM as "plausible deniability" and nothing you should set your eyes on. Interesting how Norway sits on huge gas reserves but was implicated in involvement with the US in times past (Gulf of Tonkin, Vietnam War) before the pipeline shutdown. A false flag coalition of sorts with over a 60 year history!
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