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Post by kevlar on Sept 14, 2020 21:37:49 GMT -6
We have been kind of keeping our eyes open for a little newer and bigger tractor for next spring, time to maybe semi retire the old 895. Just been looking around on line and came across a 2002 TJ 450 with low hours, more money than we had planned on spending but with only something like 2600 hours we figure it would last us a long time. Any of you have or had this make of tractor and your thoughts. Have also came across a few Versatiles in the 2375 and 375 series. They only have the 11 liter engine but they look nice too with low hours as well but a few more years newer, more the size we need really but like the idea of the bigger engine in the 450. How do the smaller engine hold up and pull? Either way it would be quite a step up from the 895.
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Post by meskie on Sept 14, 2020 21:52:25 GMT -6
450 would be twice the tractor of the versatile.
We had a 500 and it was a nice tractor. A few hydraulic hoses was it’s only problems. Sold it this spring with 4000 or so hours on it.
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Post by jaymo on Sept 14, 2020 22:07:00 GMT -6
We had a classic Versatile 2375 with the Cummins M11 and still have an older NH/Versatile 9880 with N14. For mid to upper rpm they are actually not too different but the bigger block N14 at lower revs has alot more grunt.
The 2375 got replaced by a NH T9 560, which are not even worth comparing. 2375 is just a very simple tractor with basically no extras. The TJ likely has most of the important features same as the current T9 series.
Having more hp then you think you need is a good thing.
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Post by SWMan on Sept 14, 2020 23:26:57 GMT -6
That TJ was a good tractor, pre-emission with the best powershift of the day except maybe the Challenger. Also on that series New Holland had the good joystick that was also the throttle control. New series went away from that, probably my biggest irritant with NH tractors. I would for sure take the NH if they were anywhere close in price.
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Post by kenmb on Sept 15, 2020 8:42:38 GMT -6
Have the Steiger version 2005 at 4700 hrs and seems fine so far. Do a bearing roll around 6000 hrs and should last my career. If you begin to look at the 375hp size of NH/Steiger as another comparison to the Versatile you pay attention to the axles. NH has smaller axles than the 450 version, the Stx 375 was offered as an HD version with the larger axles of the 450. Never got too far into it but looking at the shop service manual and parts books that is the biggest difference in the 375 vs 450 versions that I saw.
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Post by meskie on Sept 15, 2020 10:56:14 GMT -6
The Tj375 came in a HD version also.
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Post by carlos on Sept 15, 2020 12:40:34 GMT -6
I have a 375 versatile. Power shift, pto, high flow hydraulics. 2013 year. A very good tractor, mind you I'm only pulling a 45ft drill and 430 tank with it. Lots of power. Only thing that I dont like is the regeneration every 2nd day it seems. My 9682 is better on fuel too.
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Post by meskie on Sept 15, 2020 16:41:00 GMT -6
I have a 375 versatile. Power shift, pto, high flow hydraulics. 2013 year. A very good tractor, mind you I'm only pulling a 45ft drill and 430 tank with it. Lots of power. Only thing that I dont like is the regeneration every 2nd day it seems. My 9682 is better on fuel too. Regen is an easy fix...... |
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Post by carlos on Sept 16, 2020 8:16:52 GMT -6
Yeah it isnt bad when it does it automatically only when I have to do it manually is a pita. Someday will do a delete.
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Post by kevlar on Oct 16, 2020 22:16:03 GMT -6
Well the TJ I wanted to have a look at sold before we got a chance. Might maybe go a little different route. Just from looking around on the 'ol internet, it sounds like a lot of people seem to prefer the little bit older tractors over the newer versions, mainly stating the newer ones are louder. And emissions, of course. Was liking the thoughts of getting into something newer like some of the Versatile 2375 and 375, but just can't shake the idea of having something a little bigger with the N14. Plan now is to look at a 9880 Ford New Holland next week, I know it's older, but we have a 9680 the same age and really am happy with it. With the price difference it frees up enough money to get a bigger drill and cart to pull behind it. We don't put a pile of hours on a year so don't need the most fancy thing out there, and this is still a big step up from our older tractor.
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Post by meskie on Oct 16, 2020 22:33:02 GMT -6
We had a 9882 and it was a nice tractor to run never had a problem with it for the few years we had it.
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Post by kevlar on Oct 21, 2020 19:51:40 GMT -6
Went to look at a 9880 today, looks in decent shape, would say in as good of shape as out 9680 is. Only thing is tires are getting down, could likely get a couple years out of them I think. It has triples on it, but was wondering if we could get by with just duels when it comes time to replace. Going to look at a 52 foot drill with 8 inch spacing and 350 bushel tank. It has 20.8 R 42 tires, going to see what they cost tomorrow, that might make or break the deal. Had to put some 24.5 R 32 on our 9680 a few years back, and the price was tough to swallow. Anyone put on tires in this size recently? What did they cost?
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Post by meskie on Oct 21, 2020 21:02:00 GMT -6
We had priced out 520/46 tires in the spring. Can’t remember what they were. Didn’t seem bad compared to the 900/42 for the back of our Fendt.
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Post by kevlar on Oct 26, 2020 20:32:42 GMT -6
Ended up buying the 9880, looks like it's in good shape for the year and hours. Priced out tires, roughly $2100 installed, don't need them right away and will likely go with just 8 instead of the 12, or is that something we might regret? Going to look at a different air seeder next week, 52 feet and 8 inch spacing, 350 bushel tank.
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Post by SWMan on Oct 26, 2020 20:43:20 GMT -6
Other than transport triples are awesome in the field. I tripled up a 876 versatile years ago and it worked well in spring on wet fields. I usually took them off for harrowing and scraping in fall because fields were hard and the j-bolts were not up for harrowing speeds.
It was work but the triples saved me more than a few times in wet springs.
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